Chris Gentile is founder of Pilgrim Surf Supply, est. Brooklyn in 2012. He has spent his career as artist, woodworker, and Creative Director of the Condé Nast photography studio. The Pilgrim Surf Supply Universe explores a type of friction that leads to critical thought, which then, ideally, changes the viewer’s expectations of what is possible. Today on the podcast we're chatting about design and the re-enchantment of our world via a re-connection to nature.

Our theme music is by E.L. Mahon.